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swschmall
Jan 26, 2020
Hi Pete, Thanks for the feedback. Regarding that wisepick review site. 1. Although I don't agree with it, I've seen far worse review lists. That's not an unreasonable list. 2. Having two Garlando tables would raise some eyebrows, but to their credit - it's not an 'unknown' brand, it's just as widely distributed in the U.S. One of the top five European table manufacturers, especially in Italy, Austria, and southern Europe. - it's hard to argue with their being the top 'outdoor' table since so few quality manufacturers have prioritized an outdoor table (unfortunate). Jason in Minneapolis, bring his outdoor Garlando to the Lyndale block party every year. - I'd love to play on their top Garlando to evaluate their ranking, but much would come down to your weighing of criteria. Most competitive players in the U.S. would add to the Tornado criteria/weighting: 'it's what everyone else is playing on' or 'it plays like a Tornado' If you discount that item (e.g. because you/your friends/your family never play on Tornadoes) then it's easier to let cost and safety/telescoping rods amount to a better table. I think one of the biggest divisions in going on the market for a table is whether you'll spend any time playing on Tornadoes (in leagues, bars, tournaments). If you want to play on that style it constrains your options (to Tornado, Warrior, Shelti, Fireball, SureShot/Perfomance Games, and Brunswick tables). Regarding what table to buy on your budget: 1. You can absolutely find a good table for $800 or less, but your options are: A. Buy a brand new Warrior like that on your link. B. Buy a used table, and be patient discerning on the table hunt. Regarding Option A: Dave Gummeson, one of the best players in MN, called it the 'best table dollar-for-dollar on the market.' I think that was his honest assessment and I agree with him. It is not a better table than any high-end Torando models, but Tornado doesn't make a table that good at that price point. No one does. You can play high quality foosball on a Warrior, in fact it's even a little easier to do so on that table (it has a great foosball design). Here's a link to an earlier demo video of this incarnation of the Warrior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpkYvL4Fzss. If you're being uncharitable, (paraphrasing a friend) a Warrior will seem a little like a toy where a high-end Tornado will seem like a piece of sporting equipment. That's a bit strong, but it's straight-forwardly less durable, has weaker rods/bearings and a worse ball return mechanism. But it's a third of the price new, so what do you expect. You can have great fun on that table, get better, and it'll last for years if you take care of it. Regarding Option B: At least once a month a really nice used table (Tornado or otherwise) within your budget on Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist. Even in the $100-250 range. I've purchased many different coin-op tables for under $700 online. You just have to be a little more patient, checking once or twice a week and move fast when they're available. If they are priced to move (under $500) they'll move very fast. If they're overpriced (used tables above $800) they'll be available for a while until the seller is willing to negotiate down. Just play on and examine any used table before purchase to see how much/if any upkeep/repair will need to be done. Happy Table Hunting! Hope to see you on the table some time. Stop by Jimmy's Pro Billiards or Mortimer's when you're in town. Cheers, -Skip
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morts?
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swschmall
Dec 28, 2018
I left Wed 12/26 with things as follows: 8 teams 1st and 2nd: Nate W/Stu S v. EB/Joe M (Nate/Stu had king seat going into the third game of the 1st set). 3rd: Skip S/Wayne A 4th Zach S/Mark B Others: Chris M/Mike E, John W/Josh N, Ben T/L-Bob, Brad S/Tom D I'll try to post the December results I have at the end of the month. For quite a while (even before the new board/website) I don't think we've had a good system/tradition of regularly posting the results. Since our Wed TD can't stay until the end there's not been a clear convention/system of who will post the results, I'd love it if we had a system for who is responsible for posting the results...this is even more helpful now that there are two weekly draws in town (I rarely play at both in a week, and sometimes neither), so it can't always be me...and I'd prefer if a few other people are posting on this thing anyway (makes it seem less like I'm talking to myself). I propose either of the following systems/traditions: (A) A member of the second place team is responsible for posting the results. As for determining who, is up to those teammates. (B) A member of the winning team is responsible for posting the results. The main disadvantage of this over (B) is if the winning team would prefer not to flaunt their victory. Otherwise, I think it is a fair/reasonable demand to make for players that are in the money/small contribution they can make to the scene to ask them to post the results either here or on facebook. The results could take the form of a picture of the bracket, or typed out results. Once they are posted in one format/I could move them to the other. I encourage players to let me know what they think and see what we can do to get a new system/tradition going.
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MN Monthly - Nov 3rd
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swschmall
Nov 02, 2018
Curious about the MN Cup Format? Here are the details: Qualifying Round: 2:15-5:30 Finals: Approx 7:30 Qualifying Round: This will consist in a Round Robin format where each team plays each other team in (at least) one match. Round 1: Doubles (2/3) Round 2: Singles Triathlon (2/3 - options: Singles, FSO, GW) Round 3: Doubles Triathlon (2/3 - options: ITSF Doubles, Lott's Revenge, Speedball) Round 4: Doubles (2/3) Round 5: Singles Triathlon (2/3) (Round 6: Doubles Triathlon (2/3)) Example Schedule for Team 1: Round 1: Doubles v. Team 2 Round 2: Singles Triathlon v. Team 3 Round 3: Doubles Triathlon v. Team 4 Round 4: Doubles v. Team 5 etc.... We will just play as many rounds as we can reasonably fit until the bring start (approx 5-5:30) and then wrap up where everyone has had the opportunity to play the same number of rounds (hopefully 5-6). Each GAME you win counts as a point for your team. The top two teams with the most GAMES won after the qualifying rounds advance to the finals. MATCH wins will be the first tie-breaker. A Team Rondo game to 7 will break any further tie. Main Rule determining Line-Ups: The Eligibility Rule: - No player is eligible to play in their (n+1)th game until all players on their team have played in their nth game. (e.g. you can't play in your second game for your team until all team members have played (or are playing) in their first). Team Rondo Rule for third Games: All third games (in a best of three) are to be run 'Team Rondo' style. That is, all members of your team will rotate in to play, with rotations occurring when your team is scored upon. In doubles formats, forward shifts out, goalie shifts up, player waiting in the wings shifts to goalie. Lineup order is up to the team captain as long as it is in compliance with the Eligibility Rule. Finals will consist of a best of three matches of the three Round Formats: (Doubles, Singles Triathlon, Doubles Triathlon). Order of format will be chosen by coin toss (team that's behind picks second format). -- ANY CUP DECIDING GAME will be played TEAM RONDO style - Don't hesitate to post with any questions.....
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MN Cup 2018!
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swschmall
Oct 21, 2018
Details for the rest of the November MN Monthly: What: Bring Your Partner Foosball Tournament  - Preceded by Minnesota Cup of Table Soccer - Followed by No Conflict DYP When: Saturday, November 3rd Sign Ups/Start Times - Minnesota Cup Sign Ups close at 2:00 (pre-registration strongly encouraged). First matches called at 2:15 pm. - BYP Sign Ups close at 5:15 pm. First matches called at 5:30 pm. - DYP Sign Ups close at approx 7:30, First matches at 8:00 pm. Where: Jimmy's Pro Billiards 4040 Central Ave NE Columbia Heights  100% Payback plus $200 vendor kick-in split acroos the MN Cup ($150) and the BYP (50).   Entries: Minnesota Cup - $15 (per player*) BYP - $11 ($6 beg/ladies). DYP - $11 The MN Cup Final will occur at approx 7:30 pm (after the first two rounds of the bring are complete).  Non-conflicting BYP matches will be prioritized on the other available tables during the Cup Final, but the DYP bracket will be drawn up at this time to start calling their matches shortly thereafter.   The Follow-up DYP is primarily meant for those eliminated from the BYP and  MN-Cup Final at the time of sign ups. The precise format (R7 in losers?  Size-cap; eligibility of those still in the bring) is TBD based on turnout, time, and interest.  MN Cup T-Shirts pre-order will occur at the event (designed by Ben T!). **More details about the MN Cup event here: - MN Cup Details:  https://www.minnesotafoosball.com/forum/upcoming-events/mn-cup-2018 If you cannot make it by 5:00 for the bring, but you can make it by 5:30, text Skip to let him know you're coming. All MN Cup teams are strongly encouraged to pre-register (I'm capping it at 8 teams). Skip can also be reached for any questions or concerns (763 four 5 eight eight two 4 three).
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